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1. Re: Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be the
default (Tomasz Finc)
2. Re: Style guides at Lonely Planet (Tomasz Finc)
3. Re: Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be the
default (Erik Moeller)
4. Re: Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be the
default (Steven Walling)
5. Re: Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be the
default (Jared Zimmerman)
6. Re: Style guides at Lonely Planet (Jared Zimmerman)
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 13:55:23 -0700
From: Tomasz Finc <tfinc at wikimedia.org>
To: "A list for the design team." <design at lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: Rachel diCerbo <rdicerbo at wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Design] Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be
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3. Re: Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be the
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4. Re: Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be the
default (Steven Walling)
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6. Re: Style guides at Lonely Planet (Jared Zimmerman)
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 13:55:23 -0700
From: Tomasz Finc <tfinc at wikimedia.org>
To: "A list for the design team." <design at lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: Rachel diCerbo <rdicerbo at wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Design] Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be
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wrong.1) Enable MediaWiki UI everywhere
Developers: Add $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere=true into your LocalSettings
Non-developers: Explore http://mwui.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page or
http://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/ (the mobile site already
enables these to be the default)
2) Navigate around the site and make a note of interfaces that look
Developers: Add $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere=true into your LocalSettings
Non-developers: Explore http://mwui.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page or
http://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/ (the mobile site already
enables these to be the default)
2) Navigate around the site and make a note of interfaces that look
Please file bugs against them here [1]
* Places where buttons are constructive when they should be
destructive / progress
* Take screenshots of interfaces that look cluttered/cramped.
* Identify pages which do not use MediaWiki UI styles at all
3) Let's fix the bugs
4) When this is all done, we will need to engage the
community/communicate this change. We might need to run a beta
feature. I'm hoping Jared or Steven can oversee this. Alternatively we
might just want to turn it on if we do not consider it a massive
change.
Is there a good forum for us to engage and recommend how community* Places where buttons are constructive when they should be
destructive / progress
* Take screenshots of interfaces that look cluttered/cramped.
* Identify pages which do not use MediaWiki UI styles at all
3) Let's fix the bugs
4) When this is all done, we will need to engage the
community/communicate this change. We might need to run a beta
feature. I'm hoping Jared or Steven can oversee this. Alternatively we
might just want to turn it on if we do not consider it a massive
change.
members can get involved with at Step #1 ? That feels like it would
give us the sense of scale and community participation from the
beginning.
CC'ing Rachel to see what she thinks
--tomasz
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:02:43 -0700
From: Tomasz Finc <tfinc at wikimedia.org>
To: "A list for the design team." <design at lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Design] Style guides at Lonely Planet
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Very interesting read and I've been watching a good chunk of the videos
fromVery interesting read and I've been watching a good chunk of the videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFdA1LIvjYDLrqeHiZphNWA
Jared, where is our style guide at this point? I last checked in on it
around Wikimania.
Also, have you had a chance to watch
Ian Feather: Reducing Complexity With a Component API ?
--tomasz
http://engineering.lonelyplanet.com/2014/05/18/a-maintainable-styleguide.htmlJared, where is our style guide at this point? I last checked in on it
around Wikimania.
Also, have you had a chance to watch
Ian Feather: Reducing Complexity With a Component API ?
--tomasz
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:08:22 -0700
From: Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org>
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Thanks, Jon, for continuing to keep the pressure on.
The appearance/size change for e.g. checkboxes is very noticeable, and
right now it's inconsistent with other controls that are nearby, like
radiobuttons and dropdowns. The first thing is to actually finish the
styleThanks, Jon, for continuing to keep the pressure on.
The appearance/size change for e.g. checkboxes is very noticeable, and
right now it's inconsistent with other controls that are nearby, like
radiobuttons and dropdowns. The first thing is to actually finish the
guide and consistently apply it.
http://tools.wmflabs.org/styleguide/desktop/index.html is very incomplete
right now, when can we expect an updated version, or is there another one
Ihttp://tools.wmflabs.org/styleguide/desktop/index.html is very incomplete
right now, when can we expect an updated version, or is there another one
should be looking at?
Thanks,
Erik
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VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:50:52 -0700
From: Steven Walling <swalling at wikimedia.org>
To: "A list for the design team." <design at lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Design] Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:50:52 -0700
From: Steven Walling <swalling at wikimedia.org>
To: "A list for the design team." <design at lists.wikimedia.org>
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styleThe appearance/size change for e.g. checkboxes is very noticeable, and
right now it's inconsistent with other controls that are nearby, like
radiobuttons and dropdowns. The first thing is to actually finish the
right now it's inconsistent with other controls that are nearby, like
radiobuttons and dropdowns. The first thing is to actually finish the
guide and consistently apply it.
http://tools.wmflabs.org/styleguide/desktop/index.html is very incomplete
right now, when can we expect an updated version, or is there another
http://tools.wmflabs.org/styleguide/desktop/index.html is very incomplete
right now, when can we expect an updated version, or is there another
should be looking at?
This is a situation that's partially a consequence of how we've decided togenerate the living style guide. It only reflects what is in the codebase
now really, so it doesn't (and really can't) contain style guidelines for
future iterations on other controls.
The best place to see proposed designs is the Trello board for
(https://trello.com/b/EXtVTJxJ). When things are finalized enough on the
UXside to more seriously request Jared is pushing them to Bugzilla.
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Steven Walling,
Product Manager
https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:53:28 -0700
From: Jared Zimmerman <jared.zimmerman at wikimedia.org>
To: "A list for the design team." <design at lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Design] Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be
the default
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:53:28 -0700
From: Jared Zimmerman <jared.zimmerman at wikimedia.org>
To: "A list for the design team." <design at lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Design] Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be
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Thanks Steven thats correct. The greatest strength and weakness of the LSG
is the same things, we'll know when you can use something in production
andThanks Steven thats correct. The greatest strength and weakness of the LSG
is the same things, we'll know when you can use something in production
when it breaks, but we can't show it "live" until its in core.
*Jared Zimmerman * \\ Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia Foundation
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Steven Walling <swalling at wikimedia.org>
style*Jared Zimmerman * \\ Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia Foundation
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Steven Walling <swalling at wikimedia.org>
The appearance/size change for e.g. checkboxes is very noticeable, and
right now it's inconsistent with other controls that are nearby, like
radiobuttons and dropdowns. The first thing is to actually finish the
right now it's inconsistent with other controls that are nearby, like
radiobuttons and dropdowns. The first thing is to actually finish the
guide and consistently apply it.
http://tools.wmflabs.org/styleguide/desktop/index.html is very
incomplete right now, when can we expect an updated version, or is there
another one I should be looking at?
This is a situation that's partially a consequence of how we've decidedhttp://tools.wmflabs.org/styleguide/desktop/index.html is very
incomplete right now, when can we expect an updated version, or is there
another one I should be looking at?
generate the living style guide. It only reflects what is in the codebase
now really, so it doesn't (and really can't) contain style guidelines for
future iterations on other controls.
The best place to see proposed designs is the Trello board for
mediawiki.ui (https://trello.com/b/EXtVTJxJ). When things are finalized
enough on the UX side to more seriously request Jared is pushing them to
Bugzilla.
--
Steven Walling,
Product Manager
https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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future iterations on other controls.
The best place to see proposed designs is the Trello board for
mediawiki.ui (https://trello.com/b/EXtVTJxJ). When things are finalized
enough on the UX side to more seriously request Jared is pushing them to
Bugzilla.
--
Steven Walling,
Product Manager
https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:56:04 -0700
From: Jared Zimmerman <jared.zimmerman at wikimedia.org>
To: Tomasz Finc <tfinc at wikimedia.org>
Cc: "A list for the design team." <design at lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Design] Style guides at Lonely Planet
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 14:56:04 -0700
From: Jared Zimmerman <jared.zimmerman at wikimedia.org>
To: Tomasz Finc <tfinc at wikimedia.org>
Cc: "A list for the design team." <design at lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Design] Style guides at Lonely Planet
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Style guide is coming along, with the caveat from the other concurrent
thread that things can't get added to the style guide until they are in
core, which is still a blocker for many things currently
current state can be seen here
http://tools.wmflabs.org/styleguide/desktop/index.html
*Jared Zimmerman * \\ Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia Foundation
http://engineering.lonelyplanet.com/2014/05/18/a-maintainable-styleguide.htmlStyle guide is coming along, with the caveat from the other concurrent
thread that things can't get added to the style guide until they are in
core, which is still a blocker for many things currently
current state can be seen here
http://tools.wmflabs.org/styleguide/desktop/index.html
*Jared Zimmerman * \\ Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia Foundation
Very interesting read and I've been watching a good chunk of the videos
from
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFdA1LIvjYDLrqeHiZphNWA
Jared, where is our style guide at this point? I last checked in on it
around Wikimania.
Also, have you had a chance to watch
Ian Feather: Reducing Complexity With a Component API ?
--tomasz
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Jon Robson <jrobson at wikimedia.org>
from
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFdA1LIvjYDLrqeHiZphNWA
Jared, where is our style guide at this point? I last checked in on it
around Wikimania.
Also, have you had a chance to watch
Ian Feather: Reducing Complexity With a Component API ?
--tomasz
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Jon Robson <jrobson at wikimedia.org>
Relevant to our interests...
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