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[Design] Outreachy | Design projects
Tasneem Lohani
2015-09-11 13:29:16 UTC
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Hi,

I was hoping to participate in Outreachy[1] Round 11 (Dec-Mar 2015) on a
Design project. Outreachy is an internship program over 3 months on
programming, design, documentation, marketing, or other kinds of
contributions. A project in Outreachy needs a mentor and an intern. Often a
mentor and a co-mentor.

I found Possible-Tech-Projects[2] in Phabricator which has a large number
of development related possible projects related to MediaWiki, but I was
unable to find any Design related projects. Is there a project you think I
could work on and you'd be willing to mentor me on it? I'm interested in
Hovercards[3] and Night display[4], but I'm open to others too!

[1] https://gnome.org/outreachy/
[2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/possible-tech-projects/
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/Hovercards
[4] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112162#1630351
May Tee-Galloway
2015-09-11 17:34:30 UTC
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Hi Tasneem,

Thanks for reaching out.

You can take a look at the design phabricator board
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/design/> and see what might interest
you. I suggest once you find something, reach out to the designer who is
active in the thread and ask if she/he could mentor you.

All the best!
May
Post by Tasneem Lohani
Hi,
I was hoping to participate in Outreachy[1] Round 11 (Dec-Mar 2015) on a
Design project. Outreachy is an internship program over 3 months on
programming, design, documentation, marketing, or other kinds of
contributions. A project in Outreachy needs a mentor and an intern. Often a
mentor and a co-mentor.
I found Possible-Tech-Projects[2] in Phabricator which has a large number
of development related possible projects related to MediaWiki, but I was
unable to find any Design related projects. Is there a project you think I
could work on and you'd be willing to mentor me on it? I'm interested in
Hovercards[3] and Night display[4], but I'm open to others too!
[1] https://gnome.org/outreachy/
[2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/possible-tech-projects/
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/Hovercards
[4] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112162#1630351
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Quim Gil
2015-09-14 12:06:54 UTC
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Post by May Tee-Galloway
You can take a look at the design phabricator board
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/design/> and see what might
interest you. I suggest once you find something, reach out to the designer
who is active in the thread and ask if she/he could mentor you.
Outreachy is a full-time internship program that lasts about three months.
In order to estimate the appropriate size of a project, you may think of an
epic task that would take two weeks for a senior designer already familiar
with our projects. Such project should have already community consensus, or
at least have a low risk of being contentious.

The Design backlog contains many tasks, but most of them require software
development skills to be completed, and the ones requiring UX design skills
only seem to be much smaller.

Tasneem, do you have a portfolio or some information about your design
skills and work that might help May and other designers find a suitable
project for you? Thank you for your interest in contributing to Wikimedia.
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Quim Gil
Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
Tasneem Lohani
2015-09-14 15:05:14 UTC
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Hi Quim,

Thank you for the tip on identifying projects that would fit the timeframe.

I do not have a portfolio of design related things because I have not done
much of it ! I was hoping to help out at MediaWiki and learn how to make
designs for software. Although I have never done any design work for
software, I have done some paintings and sketches. Also, I am already well
versed in development but wanted to learn design and hence was hoping to do
a Design related project in Outreachy.

So, in a nutshell, I'd be able to do development related projects, but
would prefer design ones as I've never done it, and want to learn it. So,
maybe a partial design + development would be appropriate, where I'd get a
chance to design and implement something.

Also, Have there been any efforts towards a Mobile app for Windows phone ?
I've never seen it, and I'd love to help design it !
Post by Quim Gil
Post by May Tee-Galloway
You can take a look at the design phabricator board
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/design/> and see what might
interest you. I suggest once you find something, reach out to the designer
who is active in the thread and ask if she/he could mentor you.
Outreachy is a full-time internship program that lasts about three months.
In order to estimate the appropriate size of a project, you may think of an
epic task that would take two weeks for a senior designer already familiar
with our projects. Such project should have already community consensus, or
at least have a low risk of being contentious.
The Design backlog contains many tasks, but most of them require software
development skills to be completed, and the ones requiring UX design skills
only seem to be much smaller.
Tasneem, do you have a portfolio or some information about your design
skills and work that might help May and other designers find a suitable
project for you? Thank you for your interest in contributing to Wikimedia.
--
Quim Gil
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
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Jonathan Morgan
2015-09-14 16:20:48 UTC
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Post by Tasneem Lohani
Also, Have there been any efforts towards a Mobile app for Windows phone ?
I've never seen it, and I'd love to help design it !
No, Windows Phone has never been a priority. But I'd love to have a native
app experience :)

There is a Windows 10 app, though I'm not sure how it's supported. Once
Windows 10 is shipped for phones, that app will likely need to be made
phone compatible.

Cheers,
Jonathan Morgan
WMFs only(?) Windows Phone user
Post by Tasneem Lohani
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:34 PM, May Tee-Galloway <
Post by May Tee-Galloway
You can take a look at the design phabricator board
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/design/> and see what might
interest you. I suggest once you find something, reach out to the designer
who is active in the thread and ask if she/he could mentor you.
Outreachy is a full-time internship program that lasts about three
months. In order to estimate the appropriate size of a project, you may
think of an epic task that would take two weeks for a senior designer
already familiar with our projects. Such project should have already
community consensus, or at least have a low risk of being contentious.
The Design backlog contains many tasks, but most of them require software
development skills to be completed, and the ones requiring UX design skills
only seem to be much smaller.
Tasneem, do you have a portfolio or some information about your design
skills and work that might help May and other designers find a suitable
project for you? Thank you for your interest in contributing to Wikimedia.
--
Quim Gil
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
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Design mailing list
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design
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Senior Design Researcher
Wikimedia Foundation
User:Jmorgan (WMF) <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jmorgan_(WMF)>
Quim Gil
2015-09-14 18:42:09 UTC
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Post by Tasneem Lohani
So, in a nutshell, I'd be able to do development related projects, but
would prefer design ones as I've never done it, and want to learn it. So,
maybe a partial design + development would be appropriate, where I'd get a
chance to design and implement something.
If you can develop and want to learn design, then what about looking at the
current intersection between #Possible-Tech-Projects and #Design?

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/Nv9XniDXJG50/#R

We have tried internships projects about 'develop an app about something'
but they are problematic. All good while the internship runs, but then if
the post-intern disappears... who maintains the new app? This problem has
happened even in projects run by WMF teams.
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Quim Gil
Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
Tasneem Lohani
2015-09-15 01:45:22 UTC
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Hi Jonathan, Quim,

@Jonathan - Yes, I saw that, but i noticed that the project name itself was
"Unofficial-Apps-Wikipedia0Windows-8" XD I personally find Win0 for phones
unstable (as of now) But if they do deliver what they claim, there'd be
little/no change needed to run that on the windows 10 mobile.

@Quim - Thanks a lot for the #Design + #Possible-Tech-Projects. Although I
saw them both, I never thought of filtering based on both (Although in
hindsight it seems very obvious.) The timeline project seems to be very
interesting, I'll head over there and see if they're lookig to do an
Outreachy project.
Post by Quim Gil
Post by Tasneem Lohani
So, in a nutshell, I'd be able to do development related projects, but
would prefer design ones as I've never done it, and want to learn it. So,
maybe a partial design + development would be appropriate, where I'd get a
chance to design and implement something.
If you can develop and want to learn design, then what about looking at
the current intersection between #Possible-Tech-Projects and #Design?
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/Nv9XniDXJG50/#R
We have tried internships projects about 'develop an app about something'
but they are problematic. All good while the internship runs, but then if
the post-intern disappears... who maintains the new app? This problem has
happened even in projects run by WMF teams.
--
Quim Gil
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
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S Page
2015-09-15 04:15:55 UTC
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Post by Tasneem Lohani
Also, Have there been any efforts towards a Mobile app for Windows phone
? I've never seen it, and I'd love to help design it !

Some relevant discussion starting at
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2015-July/009547.html
Tasneem Lohani
2015-09-15 07:03:58 UTC
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On Nick (:Quiddity)'s suggestion I have created a WIki page of my own
: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:TasneemLo

So, if you have any thoughts about projects, please do look at my
interests, and throw it at me :)

Also, wanted to elaborate on an earlier point of knowing a bit of
development, I've used a fair number of languages that WMF uses.
To be specific, I am very familiar with PHP, Javascript+JQuery, HTML+CSS
and Python.
Regarding mobile, I am very well versed with Java + Android, and I have
done little windows app development with C# too. Never worked nor used iOS
though.
Post by S Page
Post by Tasneem Lohani
Also, Have there been any efforts towards a Mobile app for Windows phone
? I've never seen it, and I'd love to help design it !
Some relevant discussion starting at
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2015-July/009547.html
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May Tee-Galloway
2015-09-12 17:31:14 UTC
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​I found this link with tasks filtered to easy and open on Phabricator
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/ePvtv_ahPMrx/#R> that
might help also.
Post by Tasneem Lohani
Hi,
I was hoping to participate in Outreachy[1] Round 11 (Dec-Mar 2015) on a
Design project. Outreachy is an internship program over 3 months on
programming, design, documentation, marketing, or other kinds of
contributions. A project in Outreachy needs a mentor and an intern. Often a
mentor and a co-mentor.
I found Possible-Tech-Projects[2] in Phabricator which has a large number
of development related possible projects related to MediaWiki, but I was
unable to find any Design related projects. Is there a project you think I
could work on and you'd be willing to mentor me on it? I'm interested in
Hovercards[3] and Night display[4], but I'm open to others too!
[1] https://gnome.org/outreachy/
[2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/possible-tech-projects/
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/Hovercards
[4] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112162#1630351
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Tasneem Lohani
2015-09-13 12:12:17 UTC
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Hi May,

Thanks for the helpful tips :)

I have already begun going through the list of easy+design related tasks
filtered by Phabricator, but thank you for the link, as it brought to my
notice the "Mobile-Web-Design" tag and "Design Research Backlog" which I
did not know of :)

Regards
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