[Design] Grey text in emails

[Isarra Yos]

Hey, all. I've noticed a common trend is to use grey text for your
emails. I know it's nice to make things prettier, but some of us don't
have terribly good eyes, or screens, or both. Could you please use a
little more contrast?

Thanks!

-I

[Trevor Parscal]

Are you sure this isn't just because of formatting mistakes? Often inline
replies inherit styling from nearby, and often that styling is to gray the
text.

- Trevor

Hey, all. I've noticed a common trend is to use grey text for your emails.
I know it's nice to make things prettier, but some of us don't have
terribly good eyes, or screens, or both. Could you please use a little more
contrast?
Thanks!
-I
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[Isarra Yos]

Entirely possible. Something else to be careful about, I suppose.

Post by Trevor Parscal
Are you sure this isn't just because of formatting mistakes? Often
inline replies inherit styling from nearby, and often that styling is
to gray the text.
- Trevor
Hey, all. I've noticed a common trend is to use grey text for your
emails. I know it's nice to make things prettier, but some of us
don't have terribly good eyes, or screens, or both. Could you
please use a little more contrast?
Thanks!
-I
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[May Tee-Galloway]

I've set my emails to be "Plain text mode," but I notice it still goes
back to non-plain text mode.

Post by Isarra Yos
Entirely possible. Something else to be careful about, I suppose.
Are you sure this isn't just because of formatting mistakes? Often inline
replies inherit styling from nearby, and often that styling is to gray the
text.
- Trevor

Hey, all. I've noticed a common trend is to use grey text for your emails.
I know it's nice to make things prettier, but some of us don't have terribly
good eyes, or screens, or both. Could you please use a little more contrast?
Thanks!
-I
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[Isarra Yos]

Very strange. O_o

Still, thank you for trying. I do appreciate that, even if I have no
idea how to actually make it work. (Unless maybe there's a global
setting overriding it? Except normally the whole point of a local
setting is to override global...)

Post by May Tee-Galloway
I've set my emails to be "Plain text mode," but I notice it still goes
back to non-plain text mode.

Post by Isarra Yos
Entirely possible. Something else to be careful about, I suppose.
Are you sure this isn't just because of formatting mistakes? Often inline
replies inherit styling from nearby, and often that styling is to gray the
text.
- Trevor

Hey, all. I've noticed a common trend is to use grey text for your emails.
I know it's nice to make things prettier, but some of us don't have terribly
good eyes, or screens, or both. Could you please use a little more contrast?
Thanks!
-I
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[Legoktm]

Hi,

Post by May Tee-Galloway
I've set my emails to be "Plain text mode," but I notice it still goes
back to non-plain text mode.

Yes, it would be really nice if a listadmin could set this list to plain
text mode :)

-- Legoktm

[Nick Wilson (Quiddity)]

Post by Legoktm
Hi,

Post by May Tee-Galloway
I've set my emails to be "Plain text mode," but I notice it still goes
back to non-plain text mode.

Yes, it would be really nice if a listadmin could set this list to plain
text mode :)

Done. Hopefully successfully. (I flipped the top and bottom options in this
screenshot, to "yes" - Loading Image... )
Could a non-listadmin please send a (very) small image attachment, as a
reply to this, to test that that still works? Thanks.

[bawolff]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) <

Post by Nick Wilson (Quiddity)

Post by Legoktm
Hi,

Post by May Tee-Galloway
I've set my emails to be "Plain text mode," but I notice it still goes
back to non-plain text mode.

Yes, it would be really nice if a listadmin could set this list to plain
text mode :)

Done. Hopefully successfully. (I flipped the top and bottom options in this
screenshot, to "yes" - http://i.imgur.com/4ocDFMH.png )
Could a non-listadmin please send a (very) small image attachment, as a
reply to this, to test that that still works? Thanks.
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Fancy Fancy
* text...*
*some italics*
*--*
*-bawolff*

I sent an email with fancy formatting. But its not in archives. Did it
go through. Was the formatting stripped?

So many questions!

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-bawolff

[Nick Wilson (Quiddity)]

Grrr. Nothing went through. I've reverted for now, and will let MZ take a
stab.

Post by bawolff

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) <

Post by Nick Wilson (Quiddity)

Post by Legoktm
Hi,

Post by May Tee-Galloway
I've set my emails to be "Plain text mode," but I notice it still goes
back to non-plain text mode.

Yes, it would be really nice if a listadmin could set this list to plain
text mode :)

Done. Hopefully successfully. (I flipped the top and bottom options in this
screenshot, to "yes" - http://i.imgur.com/4ocDFMH.png )
Could a non-listadmin please send a (very) small image attachment, as a
reply to this, to test that that still works? Thanks.
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Fancy Fancy
* text...*
*some italics*
*--*
*-bawolff*

I sent an email with fancy formatting. But its not in archives. Did it
go through. Was the formatting stripped?
So many questions!
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-bawolff
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[MZMcBride]

Post by Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
Done. Hopefully successfully. (I flipped the top and bottom options in
this screenshot, to "yes" - http://i.imgur.com/4ocDFMH.png )
Could a non-listadmin please send a (very) small image attachment, as a
reply to this, to test that that still works? Thanks.

Thanks for this! It would've taken me a while to find
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/admin/design/contentfilter>.

If possible, you should install the HTTPS Everywhere extension in addition
to Ghostery. You'll get links like <Loading Image...>. ;-)

MZMcBride

[Purodha Blissenbach]

Post by Legoktm
Yes, it would be really nice if a listadmin could set this list to plain
text mode :)

Or let users do that.

Purodha

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Post by Purodha Blissenbach

Post by Legoktm
Yes, it would be really nice if a listadmin could set this list to plain
text mode :)

Or let users do that.

Good point. The HTML messages I saw here were actually
multipart/alternative and in Thunderbird I have the option to read
messages in plain text or "simple HTML": both successfully stripped the
font colours.

Nemo

[Brandon Harris]

Each user can also set their own delivery preferences for the mail on the list to be HTML or plain text only by logging into the mailman system and setting it.

And thus independence, flexibility, and personalization is preserved by DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Post by Purodha Blissenbach

Post by Legoktm
Yes, it would be really nice if a listadmin could set this list to plain
text mode :)

Or let users do that.

Good point. The HTML messages I saw here were actually multipart/alternative and in Thunderbird I have the option to read messages in plain text or "simple HTML": both successfully stripped the font colours.
Nemo
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[May Tee-Galloway]

Brandon you should come to the rescue more often. :)

Post by Brandon Harris
Each user can also set their own delivery preferences for the mail on the list to be HTML or plain text only by logging into the mailman system and setting it.
And thus independence, flexibility, and personalization is preserved by DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Post by Purodha Blissenbach

Post by Legoktm
Yes, it would be really nice if a listadmin could set this list to plain
text mode :)

Or let users do that.

Good point. The HTML messages I saw here were actually multipart/alternative and in Thunderbird I have the option to read messages in plain text or "simple HTML": both successfully stripped the font colours.
Nemo
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[Brian Wolff]

Post by Brandon Harris
Each user can also set their own delivery preferences for the mail on the
list to be HTML or plain text only by logging into the mailman system and
setting it.
And thus independence, flexibility, and personalization is preserved by
DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

huh?

Mailman does not have an option for that afaik. The "Get MIME or Plain
Text Digests?" is only about digest mails, which this thread is not
about.

Of course, people using sane MUA's can tell them to display plain
text... but not all of us use sane MUA's (I like webmail personally).
On the other hand, that's kind of like saying people who don't like
the <blink> tag should just browse the web with lynx.

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-bawolff